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Re: IDE Device?

To: gb-users_at_gta_dot_com
Subject: Re: IDE Device?
From: Bruce Morgen <editor_at_juno_dot_com>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:57:58 -0500

Come to think of it, aren't 
there flash and battery-
backed RAM equivalents to 
floppy disk drives?  Surely 
these are available in 2.88 
MB or even LS-120 capacities 
-- and what about PCMCIA 
card slots configurable as 
floppies?  If one of these 
could be "seen" as a 2.88 MB 
or LS-120 drive, that would 
be ideal -- get one for the 
machine running GB and 
another for the system 
generating the GB image!

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:32:31 -0500 "Christopher Congdon"
<hostmaster_at_congdonweb_dot_net> writes:
> Send postings to: gb-users_at_gta_dot_com
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> ----------------------------------
> Actually, I can understand the concern of older IDE Drives...
> 
> What I was actually thinking about was what you were speaking of. I 
> have a
> couple of 'Disk on Module' 16MB IDE Flash Drives. They simply get 
> plugged
> straight into the IDE port and power. No need to dedicate a space 
> for a hard
> drive (or moving parts...My biggest concern about the GnatBox) I 
> think I'd
> actually prefer an old hard drive over a new floppy disk any day...
> 
> Chris
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Colp" <rcolp_at_csil_dot_net>
> To: <gb-users_at_gta_dot_com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 16:23
> Subject: IDE Device?
> 
> 
> > Send postings to: gb-users_at_gta_dot_com
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> > http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/
> > ----------------------------------
> > A while ago we were discussing the need for a larger capacity 
> media to run
> > GNATbox from.  There were strong feelings from myself and others 
> that
> using
> > a hard drive (especially an old one!) is a bad idea from a 
> reliability
> > standpoint.  The fact remains that GTA will need to find a way to 
> store
> more
> > data as more features and device support are added.  Some of the 
> ideas
> were
> > to use two floppy drives, a hard drive, or a flash card.
> >
> > I saw something neat today...  Solid State IDE drives that use 
> Flash
> memory!
> > I knew that there were flash cards available...but this one 
> actually
> > connects and behaves like an IDE hard disk.  Extremely cool!  You 
> can get
> > modules that perch on the IDE connector of your motherboard, or 
> you can
> get
> > 2.5 and 3.5" IDE flash drives that fit in a drive bay with no 
> moving
> parts.
> >
> >
> > I found these devices at Advantech, and I'm sure there are or will 
> be more
> > manufacturers to choose from in the future... 
> http://www.advantech.com
> >
> > Putting GNATbox on a solid-state storage device would make the 
> software
> > version every bit as reliable as the GTA hardware solution!  The 
> only
> moving
> > parts you're left with are the cooling fans!  Two-floppy support 
> is a good
> > idea...but solid state is a great idea.
> >
> > So while I was against the notion of using IDE drives in the past, 
> in this
> > case I would be all for the idea of seeing IDE support in 
> GNATbox...just
> as
> > long as people don't use old hard drives that will develop bad 
> sectors
> much
> > sooner than later and cause a tech support nightmare!
> >
> > Ain't technology great?  Yaay Flash!
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Congdon [mailto:hostmaster_at_congdonweb_dot_net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 1:53 PM
> > To: gb-users_at_gta_dot_com
> > Subject: RE: remote logging configuration problems
> >
> >
> > Send postings to: gb-users_at_gta_dot_com
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> > http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/
> > ----------------------------------
> > Is there any chance that GnatBox will be able to be stored on an 
> IDE
> device?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nick Holland" <nhollan_at_home_dot_com>
> > To: <gb-users_at_gta_dot_com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 9:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: remote logging configuration problems
> >
> >
> > > Send postings to: gb-users_at_gta_dot_com
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> > > http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/
> > > ----------------------------------
> > > I have seen a message similar to that...it was due to having the
> > > write-protect slide set on the GB disk.  Is this possible in 
> your
> > > case?  After a little disaster many years ago, my finger just
> > > automatically write-protects diskettes when they pass through my
> > > hand...often on the way to being formatted or otherwise being 
> written
> > > to.  8-)
> > >

 > > Failing that, how about a bad floppy or drive?  I'm interpreting
> > > Input/Output error as a pretty clear message that something went 
> wrong
> > > durring the write, and that's pretty simple in GB's case.  I 
> don't
> > > think it directly delt with the logging setup.
> > >
> > > Nick.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Seth Clark wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I'm trying to setup logging but get the following message when 
> trying
> to
> > > > save my
> > > > Remote logging configuration.
> > > > I'm using: GNAT Box Light Version: 3.0.1
> > > >
> > > > Unable to save remote logging configuration.
> > > > Input/output error.
> > > >
> > > > Syslog server IP address:   192.168.1.45
> > > > Filter facility:   local1
> > > > NAT facility:  local0
> > > > WWW facility:  local2
> > > > Priority to log tunnel opens:  warning5
> > > > Priority to log tunnel closes:  warning5
> > > > Priority to log WWW pages accessed:  warning5
> > > >
> > > >  192.168.1.45 is the address of a NT box where I have 
> syslog.exe
> running
> > > >
> > > > Any Suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > Seth

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